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		<title>By: Woods_Woman</title>
		<link>http://www.rewildportland.com/urbanscout-archive/week8-tipi-or-not-tipi/#comment-22212</link>
		<dc:creator>Woods_Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, use dead falls in the city limits, if you are going after rabbits.  Rabbits trapped in a snare can scream LOUD and it sometimes sounds like a child screaming LOUD from being terrorized. Cops showing up with you having a blood on your hands from killing a rabbit might keep you in lock up with wEiRd people who think you&#039;re cute and easy despite your protests. The cops will have the blood tested to see if it is human or animal and that might take a day or so. Probably laws against hunting/trapping within a city limits, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, use dead falls in the city limits, if you are going after rabbits.  Rabbits trapped in a snare can scream LOUD and it sometimes sounds like a child screaming LOUD from being terrorized. Cops showing up with you having a blood on your hands from killing a rabbit might keep you in lock up with wEiRd people who think you&#8217;re cute and easy despite your protests. The cops will have the blood tested to see if it is human or animal and that might take a day or so. Probably laws against hunting/trapping within a city limits, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Woods_Woman</title>
		<link>http://www.rewildportland.com/urbanscout-archive/week8-tipi-or-not-tipi/#comment-22198</link>
		<dc:creator>Woods_Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next time build the tipi on a raised floor. Scavenge some decent pallets and a few sheets of used plywood for the job. Lay a tarp or something else waterproof over the pallets, but don&#039;t cover the ends. This will allow ventilation under the tipi which keeps mildew to a minimum. Leave a small opening for a fire pit in the center of your tipi or use a hobo stove. Very easy to make a hobo stove. I have two. Safer than a campfire IMHO and uses a lot less wood.  Cook full meals with just a few handful of twigs and thumb-sized sticks. Google the instructions. YouTube has good videos of hobo stoves.

With all the rain you talked about, make a rain catcher and store the water.  Rain water is worm and virus and bacteria free. Rain water is considered soft water and won&#039;t have the minerals that tap or well water will have though.

A mild solution of bleach and rainwater sprayed on mold spores kills them and keeps them from colonizing.

Native Americans lived in tipis, yet traded for white man&#039;s goods and there was no shame to it. You could do the same. Trade yardwork, etc for bleach or other items you need.  

Wood ash contains lye (hard woods contain the most potash lye) and spreading the hard wood ash around the exterior part of the raised floor of the tipi might keep the earwig problem to a minimum.  Salt water would kill them, too. Salt water kills grass though. Old motor oil kills bugs, but pollutes ground water.  Use very sparingly, if you do use old motor oil.

I&#039;m not too concerned about bugs in my tipi. It&#039;s rattlesnakes and copperheads that concern me.  I keep anything that might attract anything a snake eats sealed up or burn it in the fire.  I roll up my bedding and stuff it in a sack that I seal, so a snake can&#039;t get into the bedding while I&#039;m out running a snare or dead fall line either day or night.  I keep a cat around to run off snakes, too.

Pitch the tipi with a bit of a slant towards the bedding area.  This gives you more room in your bed without butting your head on a pole.  Even a tiny tipi like yours could use an ozan ( a tent within a tent ) to make sleeping more comfortable during a rain storm.  Plus you could put a mosquito net up around the ozan, too.  I live in the Deep South and the West Nile virus is killing more people every year. My sister&#039;s ex-mother-n-law died last summer from WNV.  My tipi will always have the mosquito netting around the ozan.  

Hope that helps.  My tipi isn&#039;t much larger than yours, but I live in a much dryer climate.  Oh, and never pitch a tipi directly under a tree or have large tree roots exposed under the tipi. Trees attract lightning and widow makers can fall off a tree at any time and pierce right through canvas like a sharp knife.

Woods Woman and Bubba the Cat
Semi-fictional short stories about our lives over at Writing.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next time build the tipi on a raised floor. Scavenge some decent pallets and a few sheets of used plywood for the job. Lay a tarp or something else waterproof over the pallets, but don&#8217;t cover the ends. This will allow ventilation under the tipi which keeps mildew to a minimum. Leave a small opening for a fire pit in the center of your tipi or use a hobo stove. Very easy to make a hobo stove. I have two. Safer than a campfire IMHO and uses a lot less wood.  Cook full meals with just a few handful of twigs and thumb-sized sticks. Google the instructions. YouTube has good videos of hobo stoves.</p>
<p>With all the rain you talked about, make a rain catcher and store the water.  Rain water is worm and virus and bacteria free. Rain water is considered soft water and won&#8217;t have the minerals that tap or well water will have though.</p>
<p>A mild solution of bleach and rainwater sprayed on mold spores kills them and keeps them from colonizing.</p>
<p>Native Americans lived in tipis, yet traded for white man&#8217;s goods and there was no shame to it. You could do the same. Trade yardwork, etc for bleach or other items you need.  </p>
<p>Wood ash contains lye (hard woods contain the most potash lye) and spreading the hard wood ash around the exterior part of the raised floor of the tipi might keep the earwig problem to a minimum.  Salt water would kill them, too. Salt water kills grass though. Old motor oil kills bugs, but pollutes ground water.  Use very sparingly, if you do use old motor oil.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not too concerned about bugs in my tipi. It&#8217;s rattlesnakes and copperheads that concern me.  I keep anything that might attract anything a snake eats sealed up or burn it in the fire.  I roll up my bedding and stuff it in a sack that I seal, so a snake can&#8217;t get into the bedding while I&#8217;m out running a snare or dead fall line either day or night.  I keep a cat around to run off snakes, too.</p>
<p>Pitch the tipi with a bit of a slant towards the bedding area.  This gives you more room in your bed without butting your head on a pole.  Even a tiny tipi like yours could use an ozan ( a tent within a tent ) to make sleeping more comfortable during a rain storm.  Plus you could put a mosquito net up around the ozan, too.  I live in the Deep South and the West Nile virus is killing more people every year. My sister&#8217;s ex-mother-n-law died last summer from WNV.  My tipi will always have the mosquito netting around the ozan.  </p>
<p>Hope that helps.  My tipi isn&#8217;t much larger than yours, but I live in a much dryer climate.  Oh, and never pitch a tipi directly under a tree or have large tree roots exposed under the tipi. Trees attract lightning and widow makers can fall off a tree at any time and pierce right through canvas like a sharp knife.</p>
<p>Woods Woman and Bubba the Cat<br />
Semi-fictional short stories about our lives over at Writing.com</p>
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		<title>By: DragonDaze</title>
		<link>http://www.rewildportland.com/urbanscout-archive/week8-tipi-or-not-tipi/#comment-7903</link>
		<dc:creator>DragonDaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear about your Tipi disaster,
Why not try a small yurt made from found/recycled materials.
To keep bugs at bay I smudge the lodge daily,though I&#039;ve been told some plants are naturally bug repellent. I have no clue as to which though as smudging has always worked for me here in Pa and even in eastern Oh.
Dragon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear about your Tipi disaster,<br />
Why not try a small yurt made from found/recycled materials.<br />
To keep bugs at bay I smudge the lodge daily,though I&#8217;ve been told some plants are naturally bug repellent. I have no clue as to which though as smudging has always worked for me here in Pa and even in eastern Oh.<br />
Dragon</p>
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		<title>By: margi</title>
		<link>http://www.rewildportland.com/urbanscout-archive/week8-tipi-or-not-tipi/#comment-5954</link>
		<dc:creator>margi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yay!  it&#039;s back</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yay!  it&#8217;s back</p>
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		<title>By: Urban Scout</title>
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		<dc:creator>Urban Scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 08:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Kurtz. It was just too fucking small. From what I have read, a larger tee-pee would have worked much better. Though I still think that a communtiy would help keep the tee-pee going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Kurtz. It was just too fucking small. From what I have read, a larger tee-pee would have worked much better. Though I still think that a communtiy would help keep the tee-pee going.</p>
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		<title>By: Col. Kurtz</title>
		<link>http://www.rewildportland.com/urbanscout-archive/week8-tipi-or-not-tipi/#comment-5798</link>
		<dc:creator>Col. Kurtz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 00:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t think you had a choice really, that thing was just way too small for you.  Have you ever been in an actual tipi?  they are very comfy, cozy and dry.  I honestly believe that if you had the proper sized tipi, you would be maxin and relaxin as we speak.  oh yeah, and why not build a little cedar hut?  you can&#039;t tell me you can&#039;t find some somewhere out there? get on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t think you had a choice really, that thing was just way too small for you.  Have you ever been in an actual tipi?  they are very comfy, cozy and dry.  I honestly believe that if you had the proper sized tipi, you would be maxin and relaxin as we speak.  oh yeah, and why not build a little cedar hut?  you can&#8217;t tell me you can&#8217;t find some somewhere out there? get on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Urban Scout</title>
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		<dc:creator>Urban Scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 18:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha. That picture dissappeared because they might use it in ReadyMade magazine and it can&#039;t be posted here yet. If they don&#039;t use it I&#039;ll post it again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha. That picture dissappeared because they might use it in ReadyMade magazine and it can&#8217;t be posted here yet. If they don&#8217;t use it I&#8217;ll post it again.</p>
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		<title>By: margi</title>
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		<dc:creator>margi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 03:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>urban scout is bringing sexy back.  what happened to the sexy photo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>urban scout is bringing sexy back.  what happened to the sexy photo?</p>
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		<title>By: rix</title>
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		<dc:creator>rix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 14:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>plantain leaves are nice.  they have sort of a nutty taste.

chalk the tipi up as a Feral Failure and get some credit in Penny&#039;s club.  i&#039;m glad you tried it.  it would have been awesome if you could have made it work, but even though you couldn&#039;t, you still learned things and you still stretched yourself away from the civilized norm.

i&#039;m with rory on the &quot;Trying is more than anything anyone else is doing&quot;.  we&#039;re fighting a huge machine in trying to break free from the civ.  snap-backs are part of the fight.  so you get your water from the tap.  just because you live in a house instead of a tipi doesn&#039;t mean you have to drink from the faucet.  you can still shower and drink from rain barrels if you want to.

by the way, i like the numbered foraging picture.  very instructional.  if i ever become a foraging and rewilding teache... I mean a &quot;fine, upstanding high school teacher&quot; (looks around to make sure nobody heard the subversive slip up) then I may use your idea for some instructional slides for our Yummy Yummy Yard Munchies lesso... I mean our &quot;Microecology of the suburban lawn&quot; lessons.

now go make your fucking burn bowl already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>plantain leaves are nice.  they have sort of a nutty taste.</p>
<p>chalk the tipi up as a Feral Failure and get some credit in Penny&#8217;s club.  i&#8217;m glad you tried it.  it would have been awesome if you could have made it work, but even though you couldn&#8217;t, you still learned things and you still stretched yourself away from the civilized norm.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m with rory on the &#8220;Trying is more than anything anyone else is doing&#8221;.  we&#8217;re fighting a huge machine in trying to break free from the civ.  snap-backs are part of the fight.  so you get your water from the tap.  just because you live in a house instead of a tipi doesn&#8217;t mean you have to drink from the faucet.  you can still shower and drink from rain barrels if you want to.</p>
<p>by the way, i like the numbered foraging picture.  very instructional.  if i ever become a foraging and rewilding teache&#8230; I mean a &#8220;fine, upstanding high school teacher&#8221; (looks around to make sure nobody heard the subversive slip up) then I may use your idea for some instructional slides for our Yummy Yummy Yard Munchies lesso&#8230; I mean our &#8220;Microecology of the suburban lawn&#8221; lessons.</p>
<p>now go make your fucking burn bowl already.</p>
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		<title>By: Rory</title>
		<link>http://www.rewildportland.com/urbanscout-archive/week8-tipi-or-not-tipi/#comment-3685</link>
		<dc:creator>Rory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 14:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad to hear you snapped out of your slump, Scout. I was worried(sort of) about you.

Tipi:  It sounds like it pretty much sucked, but I am glad you went through. First, b/c I had thought about a tipi, but after seeing you I changed my mind.  It is very wet and humid here too. Second, adversity builds character, not that you are lacking as a character.

Civ reeling you back: This one sucks, but this is the world we live in now.  I think the biggest secret to rewilding/primitivism is to realize we can&#039;t be them(real H-Gs). We can be the halfway or intermediate steps.  All you can do is try, and remember: Trying is more than anything anyone else is doing.  

You know we&#039;ll all be there for you, bro.  Good Luck!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad to hear you snapped out of your slump, Scout. I was worried(sort of) about you.</p>
<p>Tipi:  It sounds like it pretty much sucked, but I am glad you went through. First, b/c I had thought about a tipi, but after seeing you I changed my mind.  It is very wet and humid here too. Second, adversity builds character, not that you are lacking as a character.</p>
<p>Civ reeling you back: This one sucks, but this is the world we live in now.  I think the biggest secret to rewilding/primitivism is to realize we can&#8217;t be them(real H-Gs). We can be the halfway or intermediate steps.  All you can do is try, and remember: Trying is more than anything anyone else is doing.  </p>
<p>You know we&#8217;ll all be there for you, bro.  Good Luck!!</p>
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		<title>By: comrade simba</title>
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		<dc:creator>comrade simba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 02:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once worked at a porno shop three days a week and lived in my woods the other 4. Quit the job when they wouldn&#039;t let me cut it down to 2 days a week since I didn&#039;t need that much money. A single guy needs a membership at the Y for showers and a beat up hatchback for delivering pizzas, sleeping during the night between two shifts, and transport to the nearest suitable woods.

Don&#039;t get stuck worrying about using civilization if it gets you out of it. Worrying somehow just makes it harder to leave the asphalt. Hunter/Gatherer is not Earner/Planner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once worked at a porno shop three days a week and lived in my woods the other 4. Quit the job when they wouldn&#8217;t let me cut it down to 2 days a week since I didn&#8217;t need that much money. A single guy needs a membership at the Y for showers and a beat up hatchback for delivering pizzas, sleeping during the night between two shifts, and transport to the nearest suitable woods.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get stuck worrying about using civilization if it gets you out of it. Worrying somehow just makes it harder to leave the asphalt. Hunter/Gatherer is not Earner/Planner.</p>
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