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Raw meat
« on: September 27, 2008, 08:07:12 PM »

I just ate a handful of raw lamb and some raw snapper. nom nom nom

Surprisingly tasty and something I'd never contemplated doing in the past !

it was probably  bad idea, and im likely to die of something now, but we will see... I'll post something here if i start dieing, so you know to be more cautious if you ever try it :P

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Re: Raw meat
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2008, 03:53:12 AM »

Actually, I was reading this just earlier, its good read about raw meats...
http://www.wysong.net/controversies/rawmeat.shtml

Just try your best to ignore the self-advertising by the guy writing it >.<

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Re: Raw meat
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2008, 09:53:29 PM »

I eat mostly raw meat. It comprises about 85% of my diet as well as other raw fats. I've not been this healthy since I was 10 years old, I recommend it to anyone interested in improving their health.

If you want any help with raw eating give me a shout!

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Re: Raw meat
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2008, 11:58:35 PM »

Nice Ryan !

I do have a question: Do you only eat refridgerated meat etc ?

Or have you eaten food thats not "so" fresh...

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Re: Raw meat
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2008, 08:40:43 PM »

I have eaten some rather ripe raw meat but nothing like you see on shock tv where it's purple and green with mold and maggots on it...I'm not quite there yet  ;)  I don't just eat this way because of the health benefits I actually prefer most raw meat to cooked, with a few exceptions...nothing like quality asado meat over an open fire! Some meats taste better than others when they're raw and ripe, some worse. For example I don't care for chicken too far past it's expiration date, it gets a rather bitter taste. But beef that is a bit older is not bad at all.

There are ways of letting meat age in the fridge as well. For example is some good grass fed beef liver I left in a well sealed container far past it's due date and instead of being disgusting it was just verrrrrry sweet, not like chocolate but in a different way. It was so rich though I could only eat a little bit at a time, definitely not bad though by any means.

I now eat most of my meats raw plain just as they are or if it's something like ground beef that does not have much flavor to it at all I will add a dash of sea salt and maybe some jerk spices to it or whatever floats my boat.

I know you asked for a sip and I gave you a gulp but there it is anyway. Let me know if you have any more questions.

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Re: Raw meat
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2008, 09:40:07 PM »

Thanks for that, I was having a bit of a brain crisis there - having been taught all my life that it has to be fresh/frozen etc.

So eating meats when they start to ferment a bit is quite alright eh.

I'm interested in raw meats more out of interest.

I've been reading alot of chimps catching and eating smaller primates/marsupials etc and they eat them raw. And If humans havn't really changed much since the discovery of fire then how did we eat meat before fire ?

Most likely raw. Hense my decision to start doing this

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Re: Raw meat
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2008, 09:24:09 AM »

Just remember, that fillet mignon that costs so much at the restaurant started off as a rather mediocre piece of meat until it was aged.  Aging can do wonders, and if any civilized jerk tries to tell you otherwise, just remind them of how fillet mignon is made.
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Re: Raw meat
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2008, 07:26:46 PM »

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Re: Raw meat
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2008, 07:49:21 PM »

I should mention that if you are going to get in to eating raw on the reg there's a few guidelines with which to look for when purchasing meat...

All animals should be free range, organic, hormone and antibiotic free, regardless of variety.

If it is a ruminant (cow, sheep, goat, etc) it should be 100% grass/forage fed. They were not meant to eat grains on a regular basis if at all. The vitamins in the milk and meat come from the chlorophyll in the vegetation, corn husks alone are not good either.

If it's pig it should be fed a variety of foods, they have a digestive system similar to ours.

Poultry should be allowed to forage for bugs, seeds and vegetation, some supplementation with organic grains is ok.

Fish should be wild caught, not farmed, same with shellfish. If what I've read is correct mercury is not dangerous when unheated but is when cooked.

I would not recommend raw wild animals when they're in any kind of proximity to civilization, but raw in the wild is A ok. In fact the most delicious piece of meat I've ever eaten was wild turkey liver right out of the bird.

Just use common sense and you should be golden!

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Re: Raw meat
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2008, 05:22:06 PM »

Fish should be wild caught, not farmed, same with shellfish. If what I've read is correct mercury is not dangerous when unheated but is when cooked.

Great to know, thanks!  I'm freaked out about mercury in fish (in Minnesota, most lakes have a pretty strict limit about the "safe" level of fish to eat, and mercury contamination is no joke).  When I was about 16 and I learned how rarely I could eat fish from the lake, it really bothered me.

I'm not sure I would want to eat panfish or walleyes raw, though.  When you talk about fish, do you mean all fish, or certain kinds (like salmon and tuna and the other fishes/seafood used for sushi)?  Is it ALL good raw, or is some of it dangerous and/or not very appetizing when raw?
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Re: Raw meat
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2008, 07:03:26 PM »

This conversation is totally tripping me out. Thanks for starting this thread!
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Re: Raw meat
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2008, 07:43:44 PM »

For my own personal practice I do not distinguish between freshwater and saltwater fauna. As long as the source is relatively isolated from major industrialization eg. trout from a stream or lake that has no farmland bordering it, salmon, walley from lake of the woods, sole, tuna, halibut, flounder, shrimp, lobster, scallops from the sea, ocean.

Of course if they are caught near an area of the ocean where a factory is dumping waste in to them, not so good, but if they are deep sea fish you're pretty safe. As long as we purchase out food instead of producing or catching it ourselves we have to accept our lack of control.... another great reason for rewilding!

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Re: Raw meat
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2008, 12:13:31 PM »

Speq it's lucky for me you mentioned clean meat, but its a definite problem for me at the moment - purchased food.

Since I live in the center of the city I'd need to drive an hour or so to the nearest non-farmland/industrial areas.

Not saying I couldn't, but I dont drive and taxis are expensive and buses don't go there.

I better stop eating this stuff raw for now, I'll definitely be looking into finding some cleaner meat when I get back from holiday.

Urban - I'm surprised that you haven't tried this yourself ?!

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Re: Raw meat
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2008, 01:01:52 PM »

While I've had my fair share of odd meats (roadkill, etc) I have never eaten them raw, aside from sushi. My mom is a germ freak so I was raised with raw phobia and still have it. Hearing these stories has smashed a lot of that phobia. I'm very curious to try some myself.
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Re: Raw meat
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2008, 01:54:21 PM »

I've eaten steak raw, while experimenting with  "Instinctive Eating" many years ago. It actually tastes delicious. The anopsologists (see previous link) experience that humans like meat slightly aged, which implies a past wherein our taste buds evolved under a scavenger lifeway. If you know about carcass succession stages, and the birds/mammals/insects/etc. that prefer each particular stage, this says some interesting things about us human peeps.

My father also probably still eats pieces of steak raw now and then; he thinks cooking "ruins the flavor".
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