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Visions of the Rewilding Renaissance / Re: Resistance Vs. Rewilding
« on: March 02, 2008, 10:50:24 PM »
Well, specifically, those power structures are designed to be bent by one particular will or another, with the American ideal that they bend by either blind lady justice or the invisible hand of the market, revealing a culture looking desperately to find justice in the universe and live in the hands of the gods of order.
However, in practice, it is people who write laws, not altruistic spirit entities.
And so, there is in my opinion, a belief system of spiritual magnitude when it comes to the majority of americans.
For the majority of North Americans, tearing down civilization just doesn't resonate, but ideals such as reason and accountability do. Which, depending on your perspective, can mean the very same thing.
I think it makes the most sense, then, to respect the will and belief systems, even if they are a crock of shit, because what is important, the people around you, is more important than one's own version of what's 'really going on'.
And so, while being very libertarian (the new word for anarchist), I realize the process to get us there has as much to do with ingratiating myself into those processes as much as it has to do with recreating those processes, and handing them off to small communities, rather than federal governments and multi national corporations.
Paraphrased, I heard before, "overt rebellion is a part of the game." I think, because, it doesn't work. Subversive rebellion, now to me, that sounds like it has a better 401K
However, in practice, it is people who write laws, not altruistic spirit entities.
And so, there is in my opinion, a belief system of spiritual magnitude when it comes to the majority of americans.
For the majority of North Americans, tearing down civilization just doesn't resonate, but ideals such as reason and accountability do. Which, depending on your perspective, can mean the very same thing.
I think it makes the most sense, then, to respect the will and belief systems, even if they are a crock of shit, because what is important, the people around you, is more important than one's own version of what's 'really going on'.
And so, while being very libertarian (the new word for anarchist), I realize the process to get us there has as much to do with ingratiating myself into those processes as much as it has to do with recreating those processes, and handing them off to small communities, rather than federal governments and multi national corporations.
Paraphrased, I heard before, "overt rebellion is a part of the game." I think, because, it doesn't work. Subversive rebellion, now to me, that sounds like it has a better 401K
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Visions of the Rewilding Renaissance / Re: Resistance Vs. Rewilding
« on: February 21, 2008, 07:00:25 PM »
Okay then, I'm willing to be enlightened.
From my point of view, I work with hundreds of people in New Orleans on a weekly basis. I'm not concerned as to people's creditials to to what they know and what they do. So I have tendency to appreciate conversations like "%50 of police officers in the united states are felons or sociopaths or used to be elementary school bullies", or whatever.
I am, however, interested in my perceived, implicit privilege.
Also, in regards to gentrification, what are the implications for you personally, as regards to changes in police behavior and quality of officer recruitment.
I believe it should be understood that personally, I recently lost a friend, an officer with NOPD. She was a friendly officer who who talk with us and share her stories of being in the line of duty. Two weeks ago, while asking a homeless man, and who was later known as a severly mentally unhealthy person, to move away from sleeping in front of a business, she was assaulted, had her service weapon taken form her, and shot several times.
http://www.nola.com/timespic/stories/index.ssf?/base/news-10/1201933803244600.xml&coll=1
She was sunshine to me, and representative to the fine officers of New Orleans, not an exception to the rule.
I find most of the needs to resist culture do not require us to resist power structures, as they are the most civicly engaged and informed of us, people who understand the importance to follow the law and the will of the people.
I feel resistance comes in the form of resisting the negligence that convenience provides, resisting the sloth that despair entrenches, and resisting the cultural ineptitude that specialization requires.
From my point of view, I work with hundreds of people in New Orleans on a weekly basis. I'm not concerned as to people's creditials to to what they know and what they do. So I have tendency to appreciate conversations like "%50 of police officers in the united states are felons or sociopaths or used to be elementary school bullies", or whatever.
I am, however, interested in my perceived, implicit privilege.
Also, in regards to gentrification, what are the implications for you personally, as regards to changes in police behavior and quality of officer recruitment.
I believe it should be understood that personally, I recently lost a friend, an officer with NOPD. She was a friendly officer who who talk with us and share her stories of being in the line of duty. Two weeks ago, while asking a homeless man, and who was later known as a severly mentally unhealthy person, to move away from sleeping in front of a business, she was assaulted, had her service weapon taken form her, and shot several times.
http://www.nola.com/timespic/stories/index.ssf?/base/news-10/1201933803244600.xml&coll=1
She was sunshine to me, and representative to the fine officers of New Orleans, not an exception to the rule.
I find most of the needs to resist culture do not require us to resist power structures, as they are the most civicly engaged and informed of us, people who understand the importance to follow the law and the will of the people.
I feel resistance comes in the form of resisting the negligence that convenience provides, resisting the sloth that despair entrenches, and resisting the cultural ineptitude that specialization requires.
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Language & Oral Tradition / Re: "I know what you MEAN"
« on: February 21, 2008, 06:27:39 PM »
Yeah I agree with your sentiments very much so, I think I feel frustrated with myself and not understanding the expectation of others, and not being able to better understand our implied contexts.
Sometimes, explicit conversations harm others. For example, I feel doubly offended when getting the sense that I communicate poorly. Once, I feel hurt that I caused harm or offense to others, and second, I feel hurt that I appear insensitive to others.
And so sometimes, I recognize the fallout form putting things out there and sorting out the pieces later results in fewer people willing to participate in the conversation or problem solving, whereas I recognize that relying on our implied expectations can lead to unresolved issues.
In honor of Daniel Quinn, and for my own personal growth, I'd like to reach for that third handle, to understand and create for myself a conversation skill that doesn't bash people over the head with my expectations, or leave others to understand the implied meaning.
I have recognized in others a particular skill like one I mentioned above, but still feel unsure as to why I am uncomfortable with people who navigate around points, and avoid conflict.
I think I could probably ask a more simple question....
what does it feel like to come from a place of wisdom?
Sometimes, explicit conversations harm others. For example, I feel doubly offended when getting the sense that I communicate poorly. Once, I feel hurt that I caused harm or offense to others, and second, I feel hurt that I appear insensitive to others.
And so sometimes, I recognize the fallout form putting things out there and sorting out the pieces later results in fewer people willing to participate in the conversation or problem solving, whereas I recognize that relying on our implied expectations can lead to unresolved issues.
In honor of Daniel Quinn, and for my own personal growth, I'd like to reach for that third handle, to understand and create for myself a conversation skill that doesn't bash people over the head with my expectations, or leave others to understand the implied meaning.
I have recognized in others a particular skill like one I mentioned above, but still feel unsure as to why I am uncomfortable with people who navigate around points, and avoid conflict.
I think I could probably ask a more simple question....
what does it feel like to come from a place of wisdom?
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Language & Oral Tradition / Re: "I know what you MEAN"
« on: February 19, 2008, 05:55:15 PM »
my biggest frustration in life that translates here is working with lots of socially conscious people who haven't put it together for themselves what all that knowledge means to to them in their life. So they are stuck in a mode of deconstruction, which itself relies heavily on meaning in order to break down meaning.
Basically, I want to be a person of free expression, and I don't appreciate having the burden of proof being put on me when creating the appearance of offense to the world of deconstructivist criticism. Because what could otherwise be fruitful friendships are nipped in the bud because I'm not hip on today's lingo...
somewhere, inside of me, are the sproutings of a cranky old man! on no!
Basically, I want to be a person of free expression, and I don't appreciate having the burden of proof being put on me when creating the appearance of offense to the world of deconstructivist criticism. Because what could otherwise be fruitful friendships are nipped in the bud because I'm not hip on today's lingo...
somewhere, inside of me, are the sproutings of a cranky old man! on no!
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Visions of the Rewilding Renaissance / Re: Resistance Vs. Rewilding
« on: February 19, 2008, 05:48:05 PM »
*yawn*
I'm sure the reason you forget the percentages are because it has more to do with your perception than reality.
Don't come down to my city(the chocolate cit) thinking you can play the white boy card.... but feel free to break any but two laws
*pissing in the street
*murder
everything else is pretty okay, race regardless.
Can I ask a question...
what is it like to live in the suburbs? (maybe that's another topic, sorry) it's the one place I've only visited, never met a sociopathic cops, mostly nice people whoa re 'giving back', in their way, to the community...
I'm sure the reason you forget the percentages are because it has more to do with your perception than reality.
Don't come down to my city(the chocolate cit) thinking you can play the white boy card.... but feel free to break any but two laws
*pissing in the street
*murder
everything else is pretty okay, race regardless.
Can I ask a question...
what is it like to live in the suburbs? (maybe that's another topic, sorry) it's the one place I've only visited, never met a sociopathic cops, mostly nice people whoa re 'giving back', in their way, to the community...
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Language & Oral Tradition / "I know what you MEAN"
« on: February 14, 2008, 03:45:45 PM »
In honoring He-Who-Moderates(Willems) request to tell a story, ask a question, or start a new topic, I would rather discuss with Silverarrow and others publicly, versus private messaging, how we can as a community more effectively communicate directly, allow the impersonal to be what is implicit (and what is entered into the Rewilding Field Guide), and make the personal more explicit. I feel making the personal more explicit is certainly challenging, but has the potential of a great tool in the shed for this community's ability to move forward in finding others to Rewild with.
I don't feel it is fair to simply ask people to do things for you, if you aren't talking about a daily chore or some other one off behavior. I think it is only fair to open up a conversation with a question, belief, or statement of presumed fact and honor everyone's response when asking people to change their behavior.
In facilitating new behavior, especially communicative behavior, I think keeping open the lines of communication is important.
Also, I don't think it's particularly useful, as a diverse, multi-cultural group, to assign broad meanings to symbols, including graphics, letters, symbols, handshakes, and the like. Our worst conversations have been around not necessarily what hurts people individually or culturally, but around the assumption and conversational fallacy "I know what you mean"
I would like this thread to be a starting point for the conversation. Personally, as someone who has jumped ship on multiple cultures, I've heard this phrase, implicitly, and explicitly, many a times.
As someone more focuses on Rewilding my mind, I feel like it is a major point of concern when I flash words or body signal symbols that elicit the "I know what you MEAN" response, as if I was still participating in mass media cultured response.
As a person of sound consciousness, I feel compelled by the spirits to share my concerns, thank you to all who may listen, especially Silverarrow, whom I feel has misunderstood me explicitly.
I feel lately in my work the power of the positive implications in which people who are very unlike each other work towards a common goal. I feel very lately in my work and life the isolation and halt in progress toward our personal goals when retreating to those who "know what we MEAN".
I don't feel it is fair to simply ask people to do things for you, if you aren't talking about a daily chore or some other one off behavior. I think it is only fair to open up a conversation with a question, belief, or statement of presumed fact and honor everyone's response when asking people to change their behavior.
In facilitating new behavior, especially communicative behavior, I think keeping open the lines of communication is important.
Also, I don't think it's particularly useful, as a diverse, multi-cultural group, to assign broad meanings to symbols, including graphics, letters, symbols, handshakes, and the like. Our worst conversations have been around not necessarily what hurts people individually or culturally, but around the assumption and conversational fallacy "I know what you mean"
I would like this thread to be a starting point for the conversation. Personally, as someone who has jumped ship on multiple cultures, I've heard this phrase, implicitly, and explicitly, many a times.
As someone more focuses on Rewilding my mind, I feel like it is a major point of concern when I flash words or body signal symbols that elicit the "I know what you MEAN" response, as if I was still participating in mass media cultured response.
As a person of sound consciousness, I feel compelled by the spirits to share my concerns, thank you to all who may listen, especially Silverarrow, whom I feel has misunderstood me explicitly.
I feel lately in my work the power of the positive implications in which people who are very unlike each other work towards a common goal. I feel very lately in my work and life the isolation and halt in progress toward our personal goals when retreating to those who "know what we MEAN".
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Seasonal & Bioregion Strategies / Re: Rewilding Possible in Artificial Surroundings?
« on: February 13, 2008, 10:22:47 PM »
Well I do have friends in Queens who are trying to take it to another level, and I have heard stories of foraging in City Park.
To directly answer your question, I have been to Manhattan, rather, I drove through it, picking up my friend in Queens, and on my way to Mountain Festival in West Virginia. It was an interesting reflection, being parked in the middle of the street and many people flow around me, walking and accomplishing much more movement than I was in in my motor vehicle.
But I couldn't help but think of Cahokia mound.
The center of Mississippi valley culture, itself wasn't an ecosystem, but the center of life, where a pyramid communicated the new agricultural and medicinal knowledges from across the valley. Traffic clogging the rivers, me in my birch canoe waiting to trade my goods or move on to the Gulf from the Great Lakes.
Sure, we're definitely fucking some things up, but I am reminded of the old adage, judge not, lest ye be judge.
To directly answer your question, I have been to Manhattan, rather, I drove through it, picking up my friend in Queens, and on my way to Mountain Festival in West Virginia. It was an interesting reflection, being parked in the middle of the street and many people flow around me, walking and accomplishing much more movement than I was in in my motor vehicle.
But I couldn't help but think of Cahokia mound.
The center of Mississippi valley culture, itself wasn't an ecosystem, but the center of life, where a pyramid communicated the new agricultural and medicinal knowledges from across the valley. Traffic clogging the rivers, me in my birch canoe waiting to trade my goods or move on to the Gulf from the Great Lakes.
Sure, we're definitely fucking some things up, but I am reminded of the old adage, judge not, lest ye be judge.
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Seasonal & Bioregion Strategies / Re: Rewilding Possible in Artificial Surroundings?
« on: February 12, 2008, 08:08:59 PM »
no such thing as artificial surroundings
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Seasonal & Bioregion Strategies / Re: Rewilding you calendar: Full Moon Names
« on: February 10, 2008, 10:22:10 PM »
following the moon is much more accurate for fishing, hunting and gathering, and biodynamic farming.
http://www.history.org/Foundation/journal/Autumn05/appointed.cfm
Interesting article to keep the conversation going
http://www.history.org/Foundation/journal/Autumn05/appointed.cfm
Interesting article to keep the conversation going
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Seasonal & Bioregion Strategies / Re: Rewilding you calendar: Full Moon Names
« on: February 09, 2008, 10:40:35 AM »
you haven't rewilded your calendars enough! 
there are, ahem, 13 moons in a solar year.
Happy Lunar New Year! (last Thor's Day).
there are, ahem, 13 moons in a solar year.
Happy Lunar New Year! (last Thor's Day).
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Language & Oral Tradition / Re: "Bitch"?
« on: February 09, 2008, 10:37:06 AM »
I would love for someone more constructive than I to start a conversation about the use of the impersonal 'you'.
I still maintain that you cannot infer things like a lack of commitment to gender equanimity or any other deeply held belief by the symbols of language. Symbols are cues, they don't tell the whole story.
I still maintain that you cannot infer things like a lack of commitment to gender equanimity or any other deeply held belief by the symbols of language. Symbols are cues, they don't tell the whole story.
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Rewilding Mind & Heart / Re: Is there a place for spirit?
« on: February 09, 2008, 10:26:17 AM »
Spirituality isn't a goal, it's something already in place that you have the ability to choose to recognize or not.
We are connected to much more than what is in our perceptual field, if this helps any, what that should mean to you is that recognized or not, EVERYTHING is interconnected, as demonstrated by the spooky action at a distance principle of quantum physics.
We are EQUALLY connected to the strife and struggle no matter where we are at, just as we are EQUALLY connected to the beauty of the world, no matter where we are at.
Psychology, self-determination, is what creates false barriers from the painful and the joyful.
Through this internet, I am able to express a DEEPER connection to you, the reader, than I am able to express with you on a quantum level. But we are connected, nevertheless, and these things should not be forgotten.
Our love for each other may be injured, but should not be withheld.
If you continue to maintain the levy of your emotional outpouring from washing over your city of disconnection, mother nature will not be allowed to rewild your mind.
I'm sorry if this seems too strong, but it is I, he who plays with fire, and I only wish to be helpful.
We are connected to much more than what is in our perceptual field, if this helps any, what that should mean to you is that recognized or not, EVERYTHING is interconnected, as demonstrated by the spooky action at a distance principle of quantum physics.
We are EQUALLY connected to the strife and struggle no matter where we are at, just as we are EQUALLY connected to the beauty of the world, no matter where we are at.
Psychology, self-determination, is what creates false barriers from the painful and the joyful.
Through this internet, I am able to express a DEEPER connection to you, the reader, than I am able to express with you on a quantum level. But we are connected, nevertheless, and these things should not be forgotten.
Our love for each other may be injured, but should not be withheld.
If you continue to maintain the levy of your emotional outpouring from washing over your city of disconnection, mother nature will not be allowed to rewild your mind.
I'm sorry if this seems too strong, but it is I, he who plays with fire, and I only wish to be helpful.
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Language & Oral Tradition / Re: "Bitch"?
« on: January 23, 2008, 07:28:38 PM »
Am I to address your concerns personally, or allow what is said to be said? I wasn't addressed personally, but I was quoted. Your words addressed my words, but they didn't address me.
People often comment on the things they are most preoccupied with.
in my (seriously) post, I didn't use the "B" word at all, to show I have a respectful side, as well as a raging coyote within me.
I would like to request you to 'check' the following suggestions and assumptions:
"aren't willing to check 'their' language"
"you alienate people"
"you'd prioritize it('your way') over relationships"
"lack of serious commitment to gender equality"
and of course
the 'B' word.
Respectfully,
Me
People often comment on the things they are most preoccupied with.
in my (seriously) post, I didn't use the "B" word at all, to show I have a respectful side, as well as a raging coyote within me.
I would like to request you to 'check' the following suggestions and assumptions:
"aren't willing to check 'their' language"
"you alienate people"
"you'd prioritize it('your way') over relationships"
"lack of serious commitment to gender equality"
and of course
the 'B' word.
Respectfully,
Me
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Spiritual Technology / Re: Our Psychedelic Relationship w/ The Earth (Terence McKenna)
« on: January 17, 2008, 10:39:07 PM »
The Red and Blue pill do have deeply symbolic values.
The blue pill is the warmer pill, the pill of tighter and more rapid wavelengths.
The red pill is the cool pill, the pill of widening and less rapid wavelengths.
The red pill entheogenically would be represented by the Amanita Muscaria family, that unbiquitous teacher.
The blue pill entheogenically would be represented by the psilocybin family, another world-wide fungi.
Today, Santa Claus and his bag of polk-dot presents represents the northern, cooler, state of mind, reminiscent of travelling siberian shamans dressed as they are bringing much more powerfully potent substances to people of the south.
Today, the Alien is the figure of the Blue nation, represented by the equitorial forces and the warming of the earth and it's people.
these are two forces, two choices of mankind, two opportunities of both shame and human development. The inuit are a people of the extreme cool who harvest energy wisely and do not discriminate. The european is also a cool people who continue to make poor energy choices.
the polar and the equatorial are two forces of nature, and two paths of man. think of the pantheon of the equatorial peoples, and why the one true god seems to live in a desert...
The blue pill is the warmer pill, the pill of tighter and more rapid wavelengths.
The red pill is the cool pill, the pill of widening and less rapid wavelengths.
The red pill entheogenically would be represented by the Amanita Muscaria family, that unbiquitous teacher.
The blue pill entheogenically would be represented by the psilocybin family, another world-wide fungi.
Today, Santa Claus and his bag of polk-dot presents represents the northern, cooler, state of mind, reminiscent of travelling siberian shamans dressed as they are bringing much more powerfully potent substances to people of the south.
Today, the Alien is the figure of the Blue nation, represented by the equitorial forces and the warming of the earth and it's people.
these are two forces, two choices of mankind, two opportunities of both shame and human development. The inuit are a people of the extreme cool who harvest energy wisely and do not discriminate. The european is also a cool people who continue to make poor energy choices.
the polar and the equatorial are two forces of nature, and two paths of man. think of the pantheon of the equatorial peoples, and why the one true god seems to live in a desert...
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Language & Oral Tradition / Re: "Bitch"?
« on: January 17, 2008, 10:25:31 PM »
(seriously)
I think it's more important to have conversations and let people know how you feel, because then you are discussing contexts, not arrangements of letters.
I often remind people of the root of words like 'gypped', or that Dr. King more often than not referred to his people as Negroes.
conversations seem more valuable than definitions when dealing with with political and social 'correctness'.
I think it's more important to have conversations and let people know how you feel, because then you are discussing contexts, not arrangements of letters.
I often remind people of the root of words like 'gypped', or that Dr. King more often than not referred to his people as Negroes.
conversations seem more valuable than definitions when dealing with with political and social 'correctness'.